Onewheel Fears Fair Play: Future Motion Sues Floatwheel,

Urban mobility products like Bikes, skateboards, electric unicycle and mopeds have all been through a phase of proprietary products coming to market. In the past consumers have almost always chose the more repair friendly option. let's hope the same happens for this category. For those who don't understand the sheer usability of a device like this is unbelievable. Future motion should be afraid, float wheel just might be the option that consumers choose. I just wish there were more American manufacturers for this category.

Patent means nothing until it holds in front of a court. You can patent everything you want if you have the means. If it’s that easy to prove that the invention is not from them then you don’t have to worry to much, they don’t stand a chance

The one thing I don't like about infringement, is that two people who have never met each other, who are across the world can make, and manufacture the same product. But whoever invented the product first gets to sue the other person for infringement even though the second person never met the first person never knew about the first person never knew about their product and so on. Whatever happened to innovation and creativity, without being sued, or any sort of reprisal?

onewheel is onetrash

Fuck FutureMotion

I think that the US legal system is a joke and that they should implement laws that prevents big companies from killing smaller companies through legal battles this way. We have it over here in Sweden and as far as I know, it works well.

Watch out Louis, Onewheel we will come after you for tortious interference!

Thanks Louis

Here is a idea, Why does the guy from floatwheel not reach out to the guy that created the original patents on his original product? Get him to join as a partner and now they et rights to his original patent so that would be the end of not only this case but future motion all together.

My God, just slow down man. Speak slower, it's uncomfortably fast 😀

US patent office is toxic and the main reason behind many issues in USA.

Support float wheel please. Thanks for speaking for the people..

There is a concept in US patent law called "prior art" which means those patents are invalid and would be thrown out if any of these cases ever actually did make it to court.

If anybody here has any development ambitions and ability, i have at least 1 fantastic idea that should be backwards compatible with almost all historic media creations providing certain criteria are available, either way, it's very adaptable. i would write more, but, you know… ideas and stuff.

it's obvious when i mention it and it's highly anticipated by specific people i've floated this to. people who like Louis and his tech rights, i feel like Louis and the audience and you reading this, may indeed be highly interested in helping me forge a demonstration of this idea i have. merely explaining it is enough and saying almost anything about it seems really obvious to me, so i'm purposfully obfuscating my full idea.

the problem i have, is i'm in relative poverty and lack the means and money to make it happen or even get a real demo going. however, i have semi-figured out the easiest way to demonstrate it, but the preperation for the demo WILL take time. once it's understood and fluent in the creation process, the idea should be very very quickly adopted for everything where approriate.

this is pretty much my first public and open request for a partner/helper. it will require programmers and access to SOME sensetive data companies won't give away for free to test it on their things. again, deliberately vague and i'm sorry about that. if i wrote it out, sure, it'd get made eventually but i am kinda sick of people taking my ideas and getting rich… if it means anything, i invented the base idea for Guitar Hero and eventually Rocksmith back in 1997-1998. the idea was taken and i was wholly unaware. 5 years later, Guitar Hero arrives. that's one such instance. with hindsight, i realise my idea was too powerful for tech in 1997 which is why it waited for the PS2 era of consumer computer capabilities.

my new idea. i promise, is groundbreaking. i already sealed an envolope to myself along with an unopened self addressed private email with the details inside. that email will remain closed to prove to a judge/solicitor that this was defintiely concieved of first by me before the idea spread across the internet if it gets away from me. and, it's FOR other people. i literally cannot benefit from my invention beyond financially. it genuinely is useless to me and would go entirely unused. but, it WILL be a brand new experience and opportunity for everybody else to play with it and make new shit with it. all i want is to be first and make a ton of money.

i promise, after the "box office opening" and financial benefit, i will certainly make it wholly free and open for everybody to use with no subscriptions or purchases individually. this is not something you buy for yourself, you will be buying it (at first, just for my pocket) to get it and use it but let's say, 4 or 5 years go by, THEN i will let go of it and just give away the thing. patents are amazing. but poor people like me can't afford much of anything along the lines of food and energy, nevermind throwing money away on a thing that may get stolen before i even get a chance to sell it.

i hate being vague. i'm also not divulging it without any proof you're seriously serious. i have no time or effort to waste with people pretending or lying. i'm going to be super critical of your claims.

if anybody who can, is interested and wants what we all want, which is a fair and justified financial win along with an altruistic ending to an idea that will be beneficial to everybody else.

don't thing my words are contradictory. they're vague, remember that. it's written so you don't read into it and conclude my idea.

i tried getting funding before but the assholes only wanted profit and didn't want to get it out so they said no. i want to get it out mostly, but i don't want to screw myself. it's just as revolutionary as a prosthetic limb was, and how revolutionary prosthetic, dextruous limbs are right now. you WILL ask yourself… "how come nobody did this before?" and i know… tech limits. but shit's so powerful now, a small skilled team can make this happen with great success. the more i write, the less i want to hit "post" but, we only live once, and if i can improve your living and others, then as far as i care, i've won. but i really want to do this and the more i try, the more expensive it gets and the more i remove myself from trying. it's not a one man job and it's not a free job either.

to make this even easier, tech savvy people are likely to be the best at making this vision come to life. until then, it will be crude and easily ripped off if some idiot on the internet with a daft name put it out, gets 170 views and suddenly that idea has been stolen by everybody else and i don't get any kind of kickback for even digging into the idea… it's not even an idea that helps me… that's how good it is. it's not even FOR me.

NO MANUFACTURING NEEDED…. NOT PHYSICAL!!!

you needed to know that if you thought it would be expensive to manufacture… it's time and effort. not time and labour. (i don't consider computer stuff as labour. lifting shit is laborious. computer shit is effort.) so don't worry about warhouse/land costs. we have the internet, we don't have a limit in our ability to congregate around the idea. IF and when, the idea will be highly secretive and incredibly tight lipped.

1 very good donation/contribution/partner would be best. IF you want to help financially but can't actually help, i'm afraid the idea MUST remain a secret from you while all other operations will be highly transparent for you. progress reports, simplistic details BUT you will be the first to see the early draft before public posting.
as revolutionary.

there will be a contract whereby the idea is central and if you're unhappy with what it is, which you won't be, you can be paid back or something. BUT, being involved, makes you a pseudo developer anyway since you developed the money for the project. and i can promise, the wave this will cause can shake up the minds of plenty of new inventors and it may even make previously inaccessible things to certain people, wholly acessible and dare i say it, enjoyable!

okay. buzzwords, wall of text. telling you it's a secret if you're not actually helping (to avoid you bouncing a cheque and running away with the idea despite being warned i have an email from history where it shows i concieved the idea in full detail.). i know i seem like a real asshole for it. and probably puts you off. the initial investment needs to make a few things possible. hiring a team. writing an NDA that's entirely waterproof and airproof, getting it certified and legally covered, and then patenting it after the initial demo to the investor(s) when they agree to invest more for the benefit of making it so much more refined than the initial obviously rough composit.

i have no clue how much just that criteria would cost. but it's not going to be cheap and keeping lips shut with an NDA and respect for what the idea is, may be very very difficult.

i'l stop now. if you're interested… go to instagram and paste this .com/_chief_mojo_rising_/
make your first line Louis Rossman Group Idea Appeal. and please be entirely serious. if you have skills and want to do a project, the same applies. i'm either getting it out and getting paid or i'm going to get fucked again. i feel like most of us here are on the same page. remember, i only want the initial benefit of monetary gain. after that, it's pretty much open season and our job will be done.

i'm also considering audio and video NDA agreements. so there's no backing out pretending you didn't agree. the task actually shouldn't be long. it's getting the team and legalities that are expensive. not many people either. maybe at MOST 10. probably 5. i'd do it myself if i didn't have to learn a million new things to make it work.

by the way. it can be implemented into video games too. think of it like the toggle options for colour blindess. doesn't matter who you are, it may help you or it may not. i know for a fact i have no need for it. which is why i'm fairly certain it's incredibly fucking rude to keep it to myself and take it to the grave. also, if this gets deleted. i totally understand. but i've never known a comment section to have a very obvious group think mentality and seemingly wealthy people too. so, i'm taking the opportunity to ask both LRG and the audience (whoever CAN) to get in on the ground floor. i think it's obvious i wrote this in haste, and i know the wheel isn't related… but it kind of is… at worst, Apple buys my idea and doesn't use it. at best, it's public sourced and socially created for everybody. but we can't just give it away. and i know i should. but goddamn, i want to get mine for once and this idea is GOLD!!! a few years and when sales begin to dip at all, immediately free. no trades, no shares. whoever is involved will divide 60% of any profit. i'm probably taking 40%.

Well, Future motion will get what they deserve. I will never ever give then a cent! Thay only see revenues, not customers.