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Canon New F-1 Review

Canon New F-1 Review

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In today’s episode, Greg and I review the Canon New F-1, Canon’s third professional 35mm single lens reflex camera introduced …

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  1. Dear film community, thank you for your super quick and kind feedback yesterday on the initial version of this video which referred to the wrong version of the camera. I took your feedback to heart, rewrote most of the text and sat down this morning to record the moderation anew. It is now a proper assessment of the correct version of the camera. Please excuse the mix up. 🙂

  2. I love this camera, I inherited it from my dad and still practically in mint condition, I’ve been using it a lot when I travel, just recently went through a roll of CineStill 800T and omg the photos it produced are awesome

  3. Unlike Nikon F3 (which was a HUUUGE fail, in comparison to the previous "pro" model Nikon F2), this "new F1" was just a minor disappointment with it's idiotic, expensive and short living battery and unreliable shutter curtain. Yeah, I know I know, both companies were going through the "cutting of teeth" phase, but the customers were those who had to pay for all this – huge downfall in terms the durability and reliability due to the material used in production, beta-stage in terms of software/electronics etc.. I'm one of those who had them both, I'm the one of many fools, that is: "early adopters", laboratory mice, way back then…

  4. Sehr schön präsentiert dieses wunderbare Set! Die New F1 war meine liebste Fd Kamera bis ich vor einigen Monaten meine kleine Canon Sammlung (inzwischen) vollständig verkauft habe. Grund ist ein Wechsel zu einer OM4 ti. Die aufgemachten Punkte kann ich alle bestätigen. Zwei möchte ich noch anfügen. Das nach meiner Meinung größte Argument für diese Kamera ist die Haptik finde ich. Nun wird schnell von vielen über eine solche Aussage geringschätzend gelächelt und ich glaube den Grund dafür zu kennen. Aber es passt eben genau zu deinem aufgemachten Argument. Diese Kamera ist für eine heutige Nutzung einfach groß und schwer. Ähnlich z.B. zur Minolta XE-1 und Weiteren. Aber was sofort auffällt wenn die Kamera in die Hand genommen wird ist eben ein sehr solides und (für mich) angenehmes Gefühl der Wertigkeit. Was für mich z.B. auch in der matten Struktur des Lacks spürbar ist. Diese Kamera wird ganz bewusst für dieses Gefühl genommen. Der Fakt das sowohl Nikon (F3), Olympus (Om 3/4) und z.B. auch besonders Pentax (LX) mit den jeweiligen Modellen leichter und kompakter sind, tritt in den Hintergrund. Und wer etwas länger mit einer New F1 arbeitet versteht diese Entscheidung glaube ich. Das größte Gegenargument stellt sich nach meiner Auffassung in Form der Belichtungsmessung. Bzw in welcher Form hier gewechselt werden kann. Verständlicher Weise seit ihr in dem video nicht auf die Unterschiede der gefertigten Mattscheiben und ihre Messarten eingegangen, doch liegt genau hier die Flinte im Korn. Um z.B. zwischen Integral (also Messung übers ganze Feld meist dennoch mittenbetont) und Spotmessung zu wechseln, muss die gesamte Mattscheibe gewechselt werden. Das ist bei der Olympus OM4 oder der späteren Canon T90 deutlich besser gelöst. Für die Zeit war die New F1 eine Kamera für einen sehr klar definierten Markt. Und heute würde ich sagen hat sich das, obgleich die Zielgruppe sicherlich, kaum gewandelt. So wurde auf stärkere elektronische Einbindung (vgl. OM4ti) verzichtet, da die Zielgruppe der Profifotograf*innen die Zuverlässigkeit der manuellen Mechanik vorzog. Etwas was sich bis heute noch als Argument hält. Alles in Allem eine wirklich tolle Kamera! Hier ein 28mm 2,0, 50mm 1,.4 und ein 200mm 2.8 dazu, und es wird nicht mehr benötigt. Danke wie immer für die tolle Arbeit!

  5. I owned a New F1. Had to solt it together with my F3 and my F4. Wasn't used much. My only cam left from rhis age id my Nikon F100 with a bunch of lenses.
    Thanks for yr video!

  6. Wonderfull review for this camera that I bought in 1984 and which always works perfectly! It is a very robust camera which works even without batteries and that you can bring every where even if the temperature is very low!

  7. For some time I was thinking about offering one of my New F1's to you for a review, but to my big pleasure you developed the idea by yourself. As for the weight of this tank of a camera I suggest making it even heavier by mounting a motor-drive. This adds weight to what I call the right side of the camera/lens-combination. With longer focal-lengths from 85 up to 200 mm this setup works as something like an image-stabilizer; you can take razor-sharp images at quite slow shutter-speeds. If you want to try, just give me a message. Sending a motor-drive from Stuttgart to Munich is no big affair. Thanks for the video.

  8. Trained as a U.S. Army Still Photo Specialist, 8 months of school in 1979 at Lowry AFB Denver Colorado. We used the original Canon F1 kit in our 35mm block of instruction. Excellent camera and accessories suitable for any job thrown at it.

  9. Another great review from Greg and Max, thanks for sharing yours experience with this great camera.
    I still wait for the Leica R8 review, I would like very much to see one on your channel.
    Keep going do it very fine reviews and good new year for your channel and you.
    Thanks.

  10. Some pretty major drawbacks are the lack of AE lock, TTL flash and mirror lock up. Pretty lame not to have those features in a 'Pro' camera, especially one with Aperture-priority mode.

  11. Peter Parker's camera from the Raimi movies! One of the only Canon cameras (alongside the P) I've been genuinely interested in. This particular setup seems well-suited for low light photography with that ISO range and lens, I've been happy but somewhat limited by the OM-2n's max ISO of 1600 and looked at the Nikon FE with a max ISO of 3200, but this takes the cake, so to speak. I may have to investigate further 😄

  12. Very enjoyable and informative overview of this camera.

    Back in the 80s, it was a desire of mine to have that camera, but being much younger and much poorer kept me from fulfilling that desire. Now that I’m older and have more disposable income, I’ve moved on to other cameras that, as you said, fit my needs much better.

    Still, your video review was a very nice walk down memory lane!

    Really enjoy this channel and the information and photographs you and your fellow photographers share. 😊

  13. in 1985 I was looking a Replacement for my Canon A-1. I looked at the New F-1. I also was looking at the Nikon F3HP. I ended up getting the Nikon. What made up my Mind was the Film Advance Lever, The Nikon's was Quiet and Very Smooth, the New F-1's was Stiff, Uneven, and sounded like a Grinder.

  14. The Canon New F-1 is both beauty and beast at the same time. I lug mine around and the shutter sound of the titanium shutter gets me going every time. The interchangeable focusing screens are rare to find but I eventually found a specific screen that has larger microprisms for fast aperture lenses. It makes focusing the f1.2 lenses effortlessly!

  15. Purchased a used one from B&H Photo 22 years ago and it's still in use today with the AE finder and AE motor winder. Love it and my T90, although I mostly shoot digital I'll never get rid of the two best Canon bodies of all time.

  16. Lovely camera.. I got one around 1983-1984 to add to my older F-1n kit, retiring my FTb. Even after getting a T-90 for the better sync speed a few years later, I used the 2 F-1s as my main cameras unless I needed the. better sync. My main reason was their Speed Finder, which permitted both waist-level and eye-level viewing just by twisting. (I feel that was the very best viewfinder in any SLR, especially for anyone wearing glasses.)

    Built like a tank, and very easy to use. I continued using those 3 cameras until 2003 when I started to work with an autofocus & digital SLR.

  17. I have 3 of these laying around, one was completely submerged in a river. But after a battery swap some cleaning and lubing it still works great.

  18. Tip 1: to get the mechanical speeds 1/70-2000 you first have to remove the battery.
    Tip 2: adding the 2x winder (plastic) not only lets you get shutter priority, but provides a handy grip both vertically and horizontally. No need for batteries, unless you need auto wind-on or shutter priority. If you do, use lithium AAs as they’re much lighter and work well in the cold. You still need to have a battery in the camera!

  19. I have a Pentax LX but have always respected the F-1 and the Nikon F3 which were its 1980's professional rivals. All similar but each had minor pros and cons. For example the Nikon has only one mechanical back-up speed and a weird hotshoe, the LX lacks an exposure lock, and I understand the F-1's aperture priority mode only works with one particular viewfinder. I suppose something was needed to differentiate them.

  20. My impression is that Canon asked a number of professionals what they wanted. They replied reliability and toughness. When asked about automation they replied “We are professionals we don’t need that”. So in its basic form it is a 100% manual camera, to get shutter or aperture priority, or auto wind-on you have to add accessories. Shutter priority is only possible with a winder attached. Canon were right the professionals wrong. I nearly always use mine in manual mode with the non-auto finder, and a partial area metering focus screen.

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