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Did Mary Have Birth Pains? | Ask Me Anything

Did Mary Have Birth Pains? | Ask Me Anything

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“Jimmy Akin”

Catholic Answers Live | August 22, 2024 Hour 1

QUESTIONS ASKED:
00:00 – Introduction
03:49 – Can a person act out of anger, and it still be considered a mortal sin?
07:07 – Did Mary have birth pains?
18:07 – Is it necessary for us to do the sign of the cross before and after every prayer?
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  1. As Saint Bridget of Sweden revelation, she did not give birth to Jesus in the way we think she had. Mary answered St. Bridget that Jesus was born as the same way he come into her womb. That tells me it is a miraculous birth. She said, "be it done onto me" and Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit in Mary womb. Instantly she was filled with the Holy Spirit and with Child.

  2. “To Eve it was said: In sorrow shalt thou bring forth children. Mary was exempt from this law, for preserving her virginal integrity inviolate she brought forth Jesus . . . without experiencing, as we have already said, any sense of pain.”
    —Catechism of the Council of Trent

  3. Her true birth pangs took place at the foot of the cross when Christ's side was pierced and water and blood issued from His side. It is a birthing scene. It is here that Christ said to Our Lady, 'woman, behold your son', and to John the Beloved, 'Son, behold your mother'. In water and blood, a mother and her new son cleave to each other, and the Church is born. As His heart is pierced, hers is pierced by unimaginable sorrow. St Simeon had once told Mary at the Presentation, 'a sword shall pierce your own side also'. Although free from original sin, and so free from excessive labour pains during Christ's birth, she did not escape these greater labour pains at the foot of the cross. Our Lady of Sorrows, pray for us.

  4. Who ask these questions, huh? and what they gonna do by knowing these stuff's like when their wives get pregnant and cometh the hour would they expect to follow kinda the same experience or what? its weird that some people ask these questions, its none of your business whether the blessed mother experienced pain or how much time it took to recover and whatnot, just watch an asmr haircut videos and go to salon or barber for a satisfying haircuts…

  5. Hey Jimmy, I don't know if you'll see this, but i have 3 questions:
    1. Can you pray for me? I struggle with sins that crush my soul.
    2. What's your favorite leather tooling pattern? (i.e. Basket weave, geometric, floral, etc)
    3. If you go on tour again, can you come to southern Mississippi? There's a strong Catholic community in Hattiesburg, Wiggins, and the Coast and I'm sure the rest of us Mississipi Catholics would appreciate discovering your work.

  6. If a woman today was a virgin, and was artificially impregnated, and had the baby, she would still be a virgin. That’s the same condition with Mary and the Holy Spirit, and is why she remains “ever virgin”.

  7. If demons, like angels, have no physical substance, how can they burn in fire at all? How can eternal burning suffering in hell be "justice" when The Church denounces the death penalty on the Earthly Plane?

  8. Interesting Thought Experiment re The Blessed Mother Mary and childbirth pains. In one aspect, childbirth pain was a punishment given to Eve and her female descendants for her sin in Eden. Thus, If Mother Mary was relieved of Original Sin, it would seem logical for her not to have pain. However, this was not "pronounced" until centuries after the fact…. However, However, All Mothers in the process of Childbirth, from conception on, that need and plead for assistance, it would seem that Mary should have some firsthand experience of what the problem is… Fascinating Distraction ~~~

  9. Is there a list somewhere, or could you compile one, of all the "extra books" not in the canonical or apocryphal books, like the 3 Jimmy just mentioned? The subject as a whole fascinates me, but it seems difficult to get that information. If they were available to read online, so much the better!

  10. I recently read a few church fathers that said Mary gave birth with no pain because she was free from original sin and a pope said it as well.
    Also, I was listening to a priest say that she became our mother through great pain during the crucifixion, so maybe that verse it’s referring to her becoming our mother with pain

  11. According to many Saints private revelation and visions Mary did not suffer labor pains nor did she have a vaginal delivery, so she could remain forever pure . She was engolfed in a white light according to Anne Emerich, elevated in ecstasy, she then heard the baby Jesus cry, in her vision. The Actual means of birth remains a mystery. Kinda like the resurrection.

  12. Yeah that was me. I needed to know because I had heard different things from different people and I wasn’t too sure how to explain that to Protestants. I am in a heavily Protestant area and would like to begin evangelizing them to our faith. Thank you again for answering that. As far as the CCC 499, it was in an article that was posted to the Catholic Answers website. It was written by another apologist who put that as a reference to support that Our Blessed Lady did not have birth pains.

  13. Jesus warns His disciples before “the end comes,” there will be much suffering. He even uses the image of a woman in labor to describe it: “There will be earthquakes in various places; there will also be famines. These things are merely the beginning of birth pains.” Mark‬ ‭13‬:‭8‬ In short, great suffering that Jesus takes away, like a birthing pang.
    According to scripture, Mary did suffer the “birth pangs” of the cross:
    “Before she was in labor pains, she gave birth; Before her pangs came, she delivered a male child. “Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Can a land be brought forth through labor pains in one day? Can a nation be born all at once? As soon as Zion was in labor pains, she also gave birth to her sons.” Isaiah‬ ‭66‬:‭7‬-‭8‬ ‭
    Three things: painless childbirth about the coming of the New Creation—“New Heavens and a New Earth” (Isaiah 65:17-18). In this New Creation, the sins of Adam and Eve will be undone (Isaiah 65:23). Third, the prophecy appears to refer a single woman giving birth to a single son, but then describes “the city of Zion” giving birth to multiple children.
    Now, keep your eyes on the imagery of birthing pangs: “But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from everlasting, From the ancient days.” Therefore He will give them up until the time When she who is in childbirth has borne a child. Then the remainder of His brothers Will return to the sons of Israel.” Micah‬ ‭5‬:‭2‬-‭3‬ ‭
    Back to Rev. 11:19; 12:1-6, “in the pangs of her birth, in anguish of her delivery” is a symbolic depiction of what Mary suffered at Calvary, during Christ’s crucifixion. The woman in Rev. is Mary, and also the New Zion, the Church’s pangs by Christ’s death.
    [Jesus said to His disciples:] “A little while, and you will no longer see Me; and again a little while, and you will see Me.” Truly, truly, I say to you, that you will cry and lament, but the world will rejoice; you will be sorrowful, but your sorrow will be turned into joy. Whenever a woman is in labor she has sorrow, because her hour has come; but when she gives birth to the child, she no longer remembers the suffering because of the joy that a child has been born into the world. Therefore you too have sorrow now; but I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice, and no one will take your joy away from you.” John‬ ‭16‬:‭16‬, ‭20‬-‭22‬
    Notice Jesus is clearly referring to His coming death (“you will see me no more”) and resurrection (“you will see me”). He uses the image of a “woman” whose “hour” has come to give birth (John 16:21). While she is giving birth she will have “sorrow” (where we get Our Lady of Sorrow), but when she finally gives birth, she will not remember her “anguish” because of the “joy”. He says He’s speaking in “figures” (John 16:15)—metaphors.
    One last look at John’s account of the cross:
    “But standing by the cross of Jesus were His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus then saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing nearby, He *said to His mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” Then He *said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” From that hour the disciple took her into his home.” John‬ ‭19‬:‭25‬-‭27‬
    See what happened? Fulfillment of Jesus’ words at the Last Supper. He compared His passion and death to the labor and sorrow of a “woman” whose “hour” of childbirth has come, so now His crucifixion becomes the “hour” of sorrow for Mary, whom He addressed as “woman”.

  14. There is a priest called Manuel Maria Carreira, who was a scientific a great physician. He explains very well the resurrection of Jesus Christ and understanding his points, is easy to understand the birth of Jesus and also the Eucharist. I think that is very clear with the explanation that Jimmy made reference to the early church believed.

  15. Though not “sedevacantist” per se, the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church did experience a schism wherein faithful left the archbishop for an SSPX bishop; the Priestly Society of Saint Josaphat [Kuntsevych]. There is a wiki on them.

  16. I've seen other CA apologists (Tim and Karlo) say Mary not having labor pains is part of the Ordinary Magisterium. So, is this binding, or merely speculation? I need clarification

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