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Linus couldn’t wait to trade in his LG Wing for the new Fairphone 5!…

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  1. Making a cell phone is psycho hard, though. We actually developed entirely new project management paradigms just for it. From this is where Six Sigma comes where we make a goal of some number of defects like 1 in some 6 million aspects. The way we do that is by each component that as it starts gets measured for what we would tolerate. Like, maybe the raw metal has to be so pure or it gets rejected, and then the wires have to be +/- a certain thickness. Then we measure the components as they get assembled. Each step goes through testing to make sure components are within standards. Components that are defective get rejected, of course. Eventually put the whole thing together and ship the phone (after testing it). That's how that works.
    This allowed companies to start pumping out cell phones like crazy. Cell phones are crazy intricate with many limitations because they're so darn small and need to be mobile, but perform with minimal power usage, and still be within budgets so they sell.
    I can see how a small company not used to this struggles with this. Not only is this psycho hard but there are patent trolls that will come and tear apart all your resources which can cause project failure.
    Another project threat is outsourcing and realizing the company made a few edits to your design to save costs further. They gave you a quote and what shipped was something out of specs. Now you have something untested and something that requires proprietary drivers. Why buy an indie cell phone? To get indie results, obviously. Now your software doesn't deliver no matter what because you have to use these trashy drivers. Remember the whole Winmodem thing where your modem wasn't really a modem, it was just a piece of trash and sucked up your computer's processing power (computers were really slow back then, like, we're talking silly slow). Of course, there's there's China being China. You want to make a competitive phone? OK, cool, so do I, but then you need to keep the price down, so outsource to China. Again, China being China, they will steal your designs and rip you off. You pay for all the development and they ship your phone under their brand and leave you high and dry.

  2. Have a Fairphone 4, which came unlocked and did pretty much what I wanted with the software I chose and good repairability, a shocking weakness of smartphones. Obviously there is a trade off, there always is. On the upside fixing a charging port or a screen replacement a year or two down the line (when the machine won't be worth so much) is about as cheap & easy as it gets.
    Although I have no hands on experience of the 5, I suspect development or Lineage might iron out many of these niggles- are you sure you're not complaining about being unable to have your cake an eat it?

  3. The bezels aren't that thick and the phone isn't that thick.

    That's really more of a personal preference then a con imo. But I'm a cyclist and I mount my phones without a case so I'm still using the the old zenfones. I could be biased, I guess.

    no headphone jack still be a deal breaker for me, though.
    Not a fan of having to charge two separate things in the middle of nowhere.

  4. I would go out and buy the old Samsung as it no longer receives security patches. In that regard Fairphone were class leading (at least until google and Samsung now are starting to follow)

  5. Hi Linus from Germany,

    your title unfortunately hits the nail on the head. Your belief in the mission of Fairphone is unfortunately far too short and one has the feeling that you just want to destroy the phone and the deeper meaning behind it. The project doesn't deserve that and should have been allowed to continue in the video.
    Where are the comparisons to software updates with other manufacturers? iFIxit comparisons to repairability or the availability (+ duration) of spare parts for the FP5? I love your channel and your videos and your merch is certainly cool if not affordable outside North America due to shipping + customs fees (LTT Store Europe in planning?).
    Also forgive yourself for a misstep (Nexus Gate) but this is too personal. With a lot of energy, blood, and sweat, we were able to introduce this phone in our company as the successor to the Huawei P30 lite even though it is twice as expensive because it is almost unique in the market when it comes to sustainability. And that's exactly what every user who complains about the device or features gets, just like you, dear Linus, smeared on the bread! Yes, your arguments regarding hardware and software are absolutely understandable, but Fairphone's goal is not to produce an affordable "flagship killer" but something fairer and more sustainable than what Samsung, Apple, and others produce, and this approach not only falls short in your video but simply does not happen! Personally, the advantages outweigh the "weak points" for me by simply making a few personal sacrifices that the world will not end from. You receive regular software updates and security patches. The performance is more than OK. Some parts of this post are complaining at a high level and unfortunately reflect the overall problem in society, which is why we probably won't be able to stop climate change.

    Sorry, but that had to be said!

  6. I find the sim placement criticism unfair – I suspect the great majority of people swap sim/sd only when they get new phones. And even if that is incorrect, FP should at least get a praise for making that process tool-less. Not everyone wants to carry around a sim swap tool

  7. I had a problem with my fp5 occasionally disconnecting from the network, only to be fixed with a reboot. Sometimes this occurred once every two weeks but then I had to reboot 3 times in 20 minutes. Drove me crazy! 🤯
    The service was quite supportive and mentioned it could be the rather old SIM card, which I didn't belive right away. But as I finally switches to an eSim the problem was gone!

  8. Fairphone would rather build some poor quality plastic junk, that breaks easily so they can sell you replacement parts than making a quality phone that stands the test of time 💀💀💀

  9. This may be a headache for engineering (or accounting) but I wonder if they could use pogo pins for adding wireless charging to the back panel that pops off. Sorry if this was already mentioned somewhere in the video, I space out sometimes lol

  10. 0:19 I am having the exact same issue with my Fairphone 4 and I know people who have it too. "Nice" too see the successor is keeping the tradition going.
    The touchscreen responsiveness issues only happen when the device is laying flat on a surface. The moment you pick it up it immediately works again.
    I contacted support and they said it is a hardware issue and wanted to swap my device. The more I experience it the more I am convinced it is software and probably has to so with the location sensor readings or stuff like that.

  11. As it turns out, competing with companies that use slavery and exploitation as cost cutting measures, and at more or less same price point at that, is really hard.

  12. if all manufacturers sell parts, there wouldnt be a need for this phone at all imo
    as any phone can be repaired

    say my s23u…
    samsung provides a site specifically for parts and manuals and tutorials to repair it
    heat it, pry it open, screwy screw and unplug whatnot – simply repaired

    and if someone doesnt wanna do it themselves, every repair shop can get a hold of genuine parts and repair it easily, fast and cheap compared to sending it to samsung themselves

  13. Linus, this is a prototype fairphone! It's revolutionary! No need to be so caustic! I hope the Fairphone shakes up the smartphone industry…which is lazy and so disrespectful of the environment and the earth's resources! Your review of the prototype is Unfairphone!

  14. A few people might worry about the weight of their phone, but I haven't heard a single person care about the thickness… basically ever? Who cares about this? Nobody.

    Who cares about extreme off-axis screen viewing?

    Most of the rest of the critiques here might genuinely be for pre-production quirks.

    There are so many talking points here that are right out of the tired play book of giant phone manufacturers that haven't innovated in years and therefore try to convince us that a gram of weight or a mm less thickness on a phone is BETTER.

    I like a bit of bezel. It's USEFUL.

    I also like knowing that I'm not supporting slave labor in third world countries or supporting anti-environmental practices that push me to buy a new product before I should.

    Linus is invested in Framework. They also have build issues and challenges like any small manufacturer, even though they don't even go as far in ethical materials and wages, but he doesn't focus on just what a huge deal this is when another company does it.

    Here's the Fairpne response: https://youtu.be/Q79Jl842B4g?si=7ocbxH9bTi4g47lz

    Let's start focusing on what really matters and not Samsung and Apple talking points. This will be my next phone. I couldn't care less about any of the foibles.

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