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Why I’m No Longer Using Topaz DeNoise AI and How to use
Why I’m No Longer Using Topaz DeNoise AI and How to use Lightroom Classic’s Denoise AI
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XD brilliant. Not used jack** in a while. I'll start using it again. Cheers 🥂
Admire the honesty.
Thank you so much!!!!! Struggle with topaz blowing out highlights so this is good to know.
Have you tried Topaz AI? Or Dxo??
DxO PL 7 Takes the 1 place, PS/LR Detail the 2 place, DxO Pure Raw the 3 place. Topaz is so far behind.
I was wondering how ling it would take for you to put a video out covering this. Now I'm wondering how long it will take for Topaz to get ahead of the game again.
Thanks for this. Very thought-provoking, especially since I own all the Topaz products. Have you given them any feedback directly and if so what was their response?
Thank you for this video. I've been using Topaz products for several years. I felt that the PhotoAI still did a good job, but I couldn't believe that DeNoiseAI and SharpenAI were getting worse with every upgrade, not better. I still can't understand why, but I'll try using the Adobe Denoise now. I thought I was the only person who thought the earlier products did a better job.
Thanks for this comparison! In the day of constant "this Youtube video is sponsored by…" it's nice to see a review without financial incentives.
Lightroom blows the doors off of Topaz. Topaz muddies up backgrounds and most importantly it messes with colors and ruins fine details. I've been using lightroom's denoise for a few months now, then process the DNG's in capture one. Just add a bit of grain back and you're all good. I batched 1100 files in about 2.5 hours with an Nvidia 4090. Photo AI is a disaster, I absolutely hate it lol
I use both and find some images better in LR and some better in Topaz so not sure its as clear cut based on just one image , there are so many variables in taking images that results in both being excellent tools . I still prefer Topaz overall but on images that look " overcooked " then I try and LR but still get good results from both
Thanks for this Jess. I've been disappointed in the direction of Topaz Labs and products for many years now. I recently use Denoise AI on an image and now will no longer use it. I still get use out of their Legacy Plugins and that's a direction I wish they hadn't departed. Perhaps this will become good feedback for them. Subscribed
Like you, a long-term user of both products. Mind blown.
No-one (to my knowledge) has ever produced such a simple but clinically accurate, analysis such as this. My compliments and sincere thanks.
Not to be a Debbie a Donwner but why would someone submit a substandard image to a photo competition?
Not just me that thinks Topaz is not as good as it used to be, thank you for that, interesting and helpful
So true
I thought it was me ( user error ) 😂 I pretty much stopped using topaz a couple of months after purchase, due to how it seems to ( well, as you explained ) it looks horrendous & takes away some of if not all the true image, to a load of mush,
I do drone photography & am fairly new but even I know good from terrible,
Occasionally if I’m working with layers on the odd occasion I may just run the sky through denoise AI depends tho, I try not to,
I’m glad it’s not me just noticing it 😅 thankyou
Edit for better words it’s overkill !!!
Great video thank you. What do you think of topaz ai photo?
I would also love to know if you still use radial gradients now that ai masking is so good. Thank you!
Topaz moved away from Denoise AI some time ago. Maybe you should try their (more up-to-date product) Photo AI instead of canning an already obsolete product.
Thank you for this vid , though I usually export in tiff mode, and that wouldn't be an option for now.
I never could get the results I was after with Topaz DeNoise, and part of that was just issues getting files into DeNoise. And the times I was able to, the results were less than desirable, and having gotten other programs since then (such as DXO Photolab) and Adobe's new AI features, i don't bother with Topaz anymore. Luckily I never bought the support plan for it and bought it on sale (during Cyber Monday deal for 5 plug-ins for something like $199) one year so the cost was minimal, but I have pretty much stopped using Topaz products, with the exception of Sharpen AI. That I do like, but the DeNoise app was sort of a waste of money. The issue now is trying to figure out which one I like better: Adobe's DeNoise AI or DXO PureRAW/Photolab denoising (the trade off that I've seen is DXO does a better job at noise removal and perhaps retaining detail but this is partially at the cost of some halos in places; whereas Adobe tends to not remove as much noise, but doesn't get the haloing that DXO does from oversharpneing it seems, so I might just continue to use both depending on what I'm doing and how important the noise/halos are — the halos in DXO are also not very visible unless you zoom in on the test images I ran so it's not like it sticks out like a sore thumb).
Time to switch to DXO which has the best Denoise by far.
I don't shoot raw. Maybe I should but I don't which is why I use TAI.
To be fair, Denoise AI has essentially been abandoned by Topaz and is not under further development. The replacement, Photo AI is better than denoise ever was but it still has its share of issues. I consider stopping using it every day but LrC is not able to batch these yet unless you use boilerplate settings. And honestly, I think the denoising is better than LrC's but I don't think it will be that way for long. There are threads on the Topaz community site where users are pretty pissed with the direction that Topaz is taking and I am of the same mind. I regularly process photos that are 40-50k ISO and have gotten usable images even at 102k ISO with Topaz. In the meantime, I and starting to work LrC's denoising into my workflow bit by bit.
Good info but this video is 8 minutes too long.
But why are you comparing to Topaz DeNoise AI, which is old, instead of comparing with Topaz Photo AI, which is the new and updated software? I have both of them, in addition to LR — LR is OK, but the workflow, especially for working with many images, is quite a lot better in Photo AI.
Fantastic ❤❤❤❤ thanks for doing this.
Thanks for testing! I have to admit I have also a 12800 ISO pic with similar look but had no chance to edit it. So now I will avoid Topaz and try LR.
Thank you so much for sharing this comparison! Around the time I was considering getting Topaz AI for DeNoising was when Adobe released their AI Denoise and I've been wondering if Topaz would be worth it or not, especially for furtography. Of coruse there are other videos on the subject, but given your previous support for Topaz it is good to know where you stand now. Thanks again for the honest review, I imagine it would've been easier to not make this video, but I'm so glad you did!
Adobe noise reduction is great. It just takes too long.
Both AI denoise programs have their limitations. In other words, they aren’t consistent from one image to the next. Each image we take is vastly different in so many areas, thus Adobe and Topaz may / will struggle depending on that image. I’ve had great results with Topaz, but also horrible results, again depending on the particular image. The same with Adobe AI denoise. It certainly has its limitations.
One other thing I’m curious about in your example is what setting did you use in Topaz? Standard? Clear? Low light? Severe noise? Each produces vastly different results.
I think to properly run this test you will need to use many different images, comparing all the settings in Topaz to the Adobe version.
I've never been a fan of the AI version of Topaz. I still use Topaz Denoise and love it. Especially in PS when you can play with masks and opacity.
Thanks Jess🙂
Wow! I just tested your theory on a pic of mine and you are SO right. (I knew you would be!). Thank you for your amazing videos, you have taught me so much already. I need to checkout your basic courses.
Another fantastic video Jess! Thank you!! I thought Topaz quit supporting both Sharpen and Denoise a few months ago so they can focus on Photo AI. I've been using the denoise function in LR a lot more myself. I think it appears more natural and is certainly more convenient.
Thanks for being honest. 😊
For sure couldn't agree more Adobe have definitely done a fantastic job here and made it so easy for anyone to use in their workflow. I've switched from using DxO Pure Raw to this and its helped speed things up massively and produce better results. I have however recently purchased Topaz Sharpen AI which has DeNoise features built in too. I've found this helpful for photos ive slightly missed focus on or slow shutter and its saved a few lovely images i really wanted to include in galleries. But totally for noise Adobe has taken the lead i think. Good for the industry though as im sure this will push Topaz to develop further too.
Glad it's not just me that's been having issues with topaz! I've just stopped using it lately because it seemed to make everything worse